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2021年6月1日
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um hello paladin thank you very much for
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coming back
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and now i'm i heard that you have some
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urgent message for the japanese audience
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so please tell us what uh your message
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is
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okay thank you thank you mayoko very
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much for allowing me
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to speak on your platform because i do
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have a very important message for the
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japanese audience and the japanese
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public and the japanese
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citizens and i am honored and humbled
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that you
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have allowed me to use your platform to
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deliver this message
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so i want to thank you for that you're
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welcome
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okay okay we
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we the white hats our organization our
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network
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has had a relationship
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with officials in japan for a
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very long time and that is the basis
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of our
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relationship that we value very much
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to this day so i want to say that first
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and foremost
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because this is the foundation by which
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we
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have gone forward and this is the
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foundation by which i want to talk
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to you your audience about the last
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probably six or seven or eight months
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and that was
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that through the point of contact
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that we have now
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i was asked if it was okay if
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a group in japanese in japan was
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had permission to translate our reports
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into japanese and post those reports on
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a website
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and i gave verbal permission that that
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was fine
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that was nothing different from
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probably almost 100 or more websites who
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repost our reports
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in the united states and they there's
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only one caveat or one condition that we
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have and that
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is that you reference and source the
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white hats reports
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so everyone knows the source of the
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information
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but we do not restrict the reprinting of
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our reports in any way shape or form
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actually we encourage as many websites
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as possible to
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re-post our reports because that's the
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way you get the word out
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so that permission was granted
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and we put a announcement up on our
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website i believe in may
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just a one paragraph stating that we
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were happy to announce a
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a a a sort of a partnership with our
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friends in japan who were going to
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translate our
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reports into the japanese language and
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post them on a website
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okay so i believe there was a an online
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salon that
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opened in june of this year
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and as soon as it opened we were getting
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feedback
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from uh some people in japan that there
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were
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representations made by owners of the
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salon or
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or the people who were running the salon
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that
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some of the rumors were that we were the
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financial worldwide financial police and
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we could make arrests
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uh that the this salon was owed money
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through paypal paypal with withholding
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their money and we were going to be the
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ones that were going to come
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along and go to paypal and make paypal
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force paypal to release the funds there
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were also some other representations
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that were untrue
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and once we found out about those i sent
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a letter
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through uh the translator that i was
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working with
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to assist with translating the white hat
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reports for publication
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in japan i sent a letter
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to the translator expressing
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our surprise and
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our consternation and our disgust that
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this was being said in japan and that
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they were using
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our names for their purposes
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and we told them that we need they
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needed to stop and they needed to stop
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immediately or we could not continue
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with the relationship
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as i understand it the translator went
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to mr nato
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mr nato assured her or told her to
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assure me that it would not happen again
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so it as as we progress through the
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summertime
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i was working with the translator
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through emails because they would send
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me
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they would send me passages from some of
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the reports
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and they needed an explanation or they
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needed
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to understand what phrases and
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slang words that we used in the report
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so they could
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translate them properly into the
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japanese language so that the readers
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of the reports would understand exactly
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what we were saying
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throughout this time frame then my point
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of contact
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that originally called me up in the
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states and he is he is t-man i'll just
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say it's t-man i think everybody knows
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who t-man is
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he was with us from the beginning in in
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2010 and he he sort of um
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he sort of shifted into other and i can
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tell you
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more more more important
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responsibilities in the middle of
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june of 2012 he still is with
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our group he is in an advisory capacity
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and i talked to him almost well i
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don't want to sound like somebody else
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in japan but i do talk to him frequently
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i've known him for 25 years and we are
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very good friends in addition to being
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very close associates with the white
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hats
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but his involvement with the white house
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ceased in june of 2012
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as it relates to anything that the white
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hats were putting out
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so about two months after he had
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received
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uh or he had asked me to transmit
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to japan through his contact
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uh that the uh group in japan had
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our permission to
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print our reports and translate them
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into the japanese language
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a few months maybe a month or two after
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that he was sent
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a uh some attachments that
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showed a book that they were going this
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group was going to release
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and it showed a picture of the white
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hats uh white hat logo on the front
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they were actually using the white hat
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media group logo and we told them we
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didn't want them to use that logo we
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wanted to use the white hats reports
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at that time it was our understanding it
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was my understanding
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that they were writing a book about us
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and not writing a book about the
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reports we thought the book was about
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you know paladin and t-man and how we
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came together
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and the impact that our reports had on
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the
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on the public uh some of the information
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perhaps that we released in the report
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later we found out that no it wasn't
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that
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it was that they were actually
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translating
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the reports into japanese and they were
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then putting him in the book when
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we found that out through the translator
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that i had been working with for weeks
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translating the reports
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i indicated that we had not given
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permission
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to anyone in japan to
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use our intellectual property and our
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copyrighted material
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in books so i wanted to know
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what the situation was in regards to
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the contract that the group in japan had
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with a publisher
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and the translator got with mr nato and
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got back with me and indicated to me
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that they had a royalty agreement with
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the publisher
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and at that point in time i said okay if
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that's the case then
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we need to get a a
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royalty agreement with us so that we can
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release
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permission we can give you permission to
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put our
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reports translated into a book that is
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for sale
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that had not taken place i asked
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for mr nato through the translator to
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send
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a copy of a contract that we could
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review
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and we could sign that would then
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officially give them permission to use
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our copyrighted material
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when i received the contract it was one
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page
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it was very unprofessional it was
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obvious that it was not done by an
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attorney
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and it was something that we would never
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sign
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and we did not ever sign it
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that was the first red flag for us that
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we had a problem
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with our japanese friends
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the next problem was i we were talking
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about
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i i told the translator to communicate
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to mr nato that
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we will handle the contract we will draw
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up a contract
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that gives them the rights to our
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copyrighted material and we will send it
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to them
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and i asked for a split of the royalties
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mr nato through the translator
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came back with some story that
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the royalties um there were expenses
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that he wanted to use
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against the royalties to reduce the
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percentage of royalties that then would
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be split
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with us that was the second red flag
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because we knew that the expenses he was
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saying were not
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expenses that should be customarily
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taken out
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and uh used against royalties in other
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words if the royalty fee is ten percent
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then
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they should get five we should get five
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he came up with
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expenses that i know are not related to
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to the book or the two royalties
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and he tried to reduce that percentage
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to us
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from five to three he said no there's
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four percent so it's
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we take four percent from ten percent
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there's six percent we'll split
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six percent so you'll get three and
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we'll get three and
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i knew we had a problem then also
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so at that point in time we started an
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investigation we started looking into
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the situation
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the first book was released september
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11th
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volume 1 i believe it's called i had
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started through social media through
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email and twitter i was getting feedback
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on some of the things that were said
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at the salon some of the things that
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were said
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at certain gatherings in public
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and i also received feedback of certain
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things that were said
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in the book after our
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reports were translated then there was a
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commentary
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that followed that was
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done primarily by mr nato with
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assistance from the gentleman who runs
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the salon
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when i found out what the content was
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of that commentary i knew that we had a
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serious problem because
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they were not authorized number one to
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release any more information
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regarding us and the information that
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they were releasing in the commentary
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part
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was not accurate they were
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misrepresenting
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the white hats so at that point in time
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we contacted attorneys
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we wrote up cease and desist notices
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we sent those cease and desist notices
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to the who club and also the publisher
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those cease and desist notices were sent
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out
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a day ago yesterday well actually last
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night for us yesterday for japan
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those have been received all of the all
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of the directors officers and board
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members of the who club have received
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those
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as as the publisher and we gave them a
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deadline to respond to those
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cease and desist notices and we are
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hopeful that they will comply with what
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we have put in our cease and desist
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notices
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so that we do not have to take any
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further
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legal action now what i want to say to
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the japanese
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audience is is that we are
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very sorry that this group
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has de decided to
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utilize our name our reputation
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our standing in the world our
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recognition
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to create multiple
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income streams in japan and
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while doing so misrepresenting
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what we stand for what we are and what
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we do
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so for that the white hats officially
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would like to
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apologize to everyone
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in japan because it was not our
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intention
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for any of this to happen we did not
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give a green light we did not okay a
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crowd funding
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we did not okay a book and we did not
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okay
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memberships being sold in an online
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salon
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for the purpose of bringing people in
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and
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telling them stories about the white
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hats that were not
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true and not authorized and also
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utilizing that salon to talk about
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currencies various currencies and
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investments
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that they should be buying based on
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information that they were getting from
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the white hats because that
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is not true now i
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paladin own the copyright material
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i own the domain name i own the website
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and i
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own i am the copyright owner of the
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intellectual property
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of the white hats reports and if i have
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to
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go to legal
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remedies to enforce my rights
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i will do so and so i want everyone to
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know that i
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am pursuing that and and i am pursuing
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it because it's in my
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name but the white hat network
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and group that is behind the white hats
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reports and the white hat group
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and media group are behind me so i just
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want to let the
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the japanese audience know that we are
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trying to put a stop to this immediately
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and hopefully the board members of the
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who club
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and the publishers of the book will
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understand
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the legal position that they are in
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and they will adhere to our demands to
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cease
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and desist immediately
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okay thank you very much
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um when i when you told me about this i
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was too shocked and i don't know what to
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say
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and i interviewed you because i saw you
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on kerry cassidy project camelot site
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two years ago she was interviewing
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in you two years ago so i was so excited
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to be able to hear the voice of a white
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hat paladin
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and it was my dream to interview you so
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the dream came true
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but through am communicating with you
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and you told me about the story
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of this uh what's going on in japan and
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i've never been a member of the
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night or no i didn't buy the book
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but um it's just too disgusting and it's
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too bad
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and and they really tainted all your
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work and your passion and everything you
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did
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because you own everything and it's
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really bad
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and i hope this message will spread out
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thank you very much mayoko um
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you know with it with the with the time
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change you guys
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you know we're we're on opposite ends of
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the world
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um the language we have a language
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barrier so it's it's been very difficult
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for us to stay up with this
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but once we found once we got the
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information and we saw
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the quality of the per people that we
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were dealing with primarily mr nato
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that we knew that we had a problem
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because if they
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if he wanted to use our copyrighted
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material for a book
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then he should have been the one to come
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to us
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as an honorable person would and
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provide us with a way
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a legal document a legal contract
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in which he could legally get permission
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to use our
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intellectual property in japan
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it came from us because then we found
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out that that intellectual property was
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being put
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into books so we were the ones to have
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to make the contact
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and say hey mr nato you're using our
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copyrighted material
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you don't have permission authorization
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to do that
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so you better send us a document so that
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we can
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come to an agreement so you can do that
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and when we got the agreement as i said
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earlier
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it was it was a very substandard
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agreement it was not
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obviously not prepared by a
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a a an attorney and it was obvious that
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he probably dictated it maybe
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to a translator to put it down on one
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piece of paper and send it
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so we knew that was a problem we deal in
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honesty
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and integrity because at the end of the
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day our word is all we have
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and so to be associated with something
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like this is
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very it's very disappointing to us
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and it's a case where we we trusted
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people that maybe we shouldn't have
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trusted but
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our bond with the japanese
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um the japanese people we still feel
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like we have a strong bond and we cannot
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we cannot abandon the japanese people
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just because of a few people who are
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trying to
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become greedy from our work
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and they have egos that are out of
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control
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and that's unfortunate because those are
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two of the seven
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sins seven deadly sins and these are
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things that we
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work daily to try to avoid it's not
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about
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money it's not about greed our whole
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organization
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we do not have a boss we do not
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have a line of reporting
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we all work together we all have a
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function and it takes every single one
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of us to provide
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the information that we have provided to
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the public
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and no one is above the other
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in our organization we are all equal
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we don't need a boss we just come
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together
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we we produce a product everyone has an
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assignment everyone has a task they do
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the task
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and hopefully the result that we produce
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is will help the world and that's really
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all i have to say about that
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oh thank you paladin i think everybody
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will understand
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what what has happened and everybody
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will realize that um
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mr naito i think his name uh is um
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telling lies from the beginning i think
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he was saying that he has
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a very close relationship with the white
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hands and that's not true at all
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no the the relationship that we have
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and we have had with japan is not with
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him
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it is someone else and he
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just happened to be involved with that
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person
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and he has used that person's
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name and reputation in addition to ours
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to try to further
21:36
himself and that is really sad
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because he has he has he has attempted
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to damage
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both of us but it's not it's not going
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to work so
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we wanted to come directly to the
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japanese people because we know
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that uh mr nato is saying things
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about me being a liar and i would just
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challenge mr nato to prove that i'm a
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liar prove that i don't own the white
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hats
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website prove that i don't own the
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domain name
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prove that i don't own
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the intellectual properly property and
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copyrighted material on the white hats
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reports
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and prove that i gave you written
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permission
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through a contract that you could use
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our intellectual property to make money
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and that's all he has to do he's called
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me a liar i've gotten that
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information back from several people and
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so he wants to call me a liar in public
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well
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i am calling him out and i am saying to
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you mr nato
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you prove that i am a liar
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paladin thank you very much it must have
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been very difficult time for you
22:48
i mean you're doing all these wonderful
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work for the humanity for the whole
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planet
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for the freedom of planets and with
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honesty and
22:56
integrity and it's a disappointing for
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you to have to go through this
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i'm so sorry but i will get through this
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and then there's already many fans in
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japan
23:08
for your reports so i think that we can
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continue a good relationship
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between we we
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hope we hope that we can
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continue our relationship with japan
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we are honored to call you our friend
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and honored that you call
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us your friend and we want to maintain
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that relationship
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because we have special places in our
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heart for the japanese
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because we do have a long standing very
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strong relationship
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in your country and we don't want to do
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anything to hurt that
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so we hope we hope that we can go
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forward but we always want to tell
23:50
the truth and we want to want this
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message to be delivered directly to the
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japanese people
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and i cannot thank you enough the whole
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white hat team cannot thank you enough
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myoko for making this
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possible thank you and you really have
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to come to japan
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and we're all going to um welcome you
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and let's go bye
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i can i cannot wait because just between
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you and i i love
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sushi this is going to be a very good
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um well um outcome eventually
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i think yes that's that is our hope um
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that that is our hope we hope to get
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through this and pass this
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and maintain our relationship with japan
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and hopefully we can strengthen it going
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forward
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okay thank you very much it was so long
24:38
for you
24:40
thank you so thank you very much
24:43
really and i hope to and have you again
24:47
well much information but i know you're
24:49
very busy now
24:51
thank you mayoko for allowing me this
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platform because this is
24:56
this is special i know i said that when
24:59
we were interviewing but i do really
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mean it that this gives me a way
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to go direct to the audience your
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audience and the audience in japan
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and that's the most important thing
25:10
because now i can tell my side
25:12
of the story okay paladin thank you
25:16
thank you thank you and we will stay in
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touch will we not
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of course of course thank you okay okay
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you quiet thank you so much thank you
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very much you are very much appreciated
25:32
and you thank you okay thank you
25:40
bye
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